madamimadam » Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:04 pm wrote:I managed to bring in the stuff I had. Check the "TOH Promo" thread for lots of stuff coming up. I just can't concentrate enough to take care of the new threads and calendar info.
I am so devastated by what happened in Paris....
madamimadam » Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:08 pm wrote:Yes, I did. My post was in response to yours.Tiki » Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:05 pm wrote:Did you see my tweet above which was only 12 min ago vs your posted tweet 2 hrs ago.madamimadam » Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:01 pm wrote:...hmmmm.... not so sure, guys....
citygirl36 2h2 hours ago
"At least thru Thurs." Billboard - Paris Shuts Down Public Spaces, Including Concerts Halls, Movie Theaters, Museums http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/ ... e-theaters …
CNN/MSNBC still have not reported that the shut down has been lifted... so not so sure about her tweet.
I have been very affected by the Paris massacre... I've found myself glued to my TV and 'unable' to do anything constructive (for Adam). I did the bare minimum here at MTT.svca » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:35 am wrote:Just checking in to see how everybody is doing....it's so quiet every place
3kul....I am sorry but I don't agree! To these terrorists, it doesn't matter whether you are famous or not. It didn't make any difference at Bataclan. Concerts include fans, so all are in danger. The Eagles of Death Metal were very fortunate to escape and that may have only been because they were at the back of the theatre to the terrorists coming in from the front and were able to get out before the terrorists could get to them. These terrorists don't differentiate between famous and non famous and you just don't know who they are. They are brutal killers.3ku1 » Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:45 pm wrote:Their should be no reason for Adam to cancel. These terrorist attacks generally dont attack famous ppl, as their is too much security. Its every day ppl they attack. Should be safe by the time Adams their.
With what happened Friday night, they would have had to have a lot of security outside and inside to have maybe stopped the atrocity and most places only have security to make sure the fans don't cause trouble and to protect the band from the fans so I don't question the lack of security. You can't even blame the security that keep an eye on suspected terrorists, since the number of terrorists is in the thousands and they just don't have the manpower to cover them all. It was said on TV today that it takes 20 agents altogether to cover 1 person 24/7 and as you said they are very secretive and creative and this is what is so hard to fight.hotouthere » Sun Nov 15, 2015 5:24 pm wrote:Like Marie, I have been glued to the TV and am terribly upset over that whole ordeal that happened in Paris. It is difficult to put to words everything that I am feeling. The death and suffering of those victims was absolutely senseless.
Personally, the radical beliefs, ideals and any suggestion that those savage criminals have anything worthwhile to offer me or society as a whole is beyond my comprehension. Anyone who has any admiration, support them or wish to join them has never learned the basics of living a life that is of any value to themselves, their families or society.
While every time something happens and we learn ways to better deal with those incidences; the terrorists obviously are just creative and secretive enough to find other ways of attacking in places where they can do harm to unarmed, vulnerable, innocent victims. I do question what I feel was a lack of security for that music venue. But then, the fact that those guys were wearing explosive vests, just how effective more or armed security would have been is unknown. Obviously, the terrorists take advantage of the fact that reasonable, decent unarmed people don’t have the capacity to fight off a determined maniac who doesn’t care if he lives or dies.
The refugee crisis is another story and huge resources need to be put in place to control that situation. Unfortunately, these problems are extremely costly to deal with and our tax dollars can only go so far. The situation with illegal aliens entering our country from Mexico is not much different. It is not just a matter of keeping individuals out of our country; better laws are very much needed and must be enforced. I personally am against birthright citizenship. It is an antiquated idea and only encourages people to enter our country illegally or stay past legal time limits. We don’t have unlimited resources to allow every person enter and the ability of our society to absorb them is already stretched. I do believe in allowing people in for work purposes but not to stay permanently or become citizens without waiting a long period of time to prove that they are worthy of citizenship.
Our country must have ability to keep close track of aliens and immigrants. They must make sure that they are following our laws, working, paying taxes, learning English and making progress in assimilating into our society rather than breaking off into groups like gangs that separate themselves from what is viewed as normal, acceptable, law abiding, productive individuals in a modern, civilized society. I have worked with and am close to many people who are immigrants and my grandparents were immigrants as well. I do accounting for businesses who regularly must turn away illegal immigrants and who often give fake IDs that must be weeded out. My thoughts are very much influenced by personal experience.
Another area that we need to put much more money and effort into is making sure that all of our young men and women are educated, gain work related skills and have access to good jobs. Unfortunately, the United States is failing terribly when it comes to better funding of public schools, making college affordable and making sure that all of our children can become gainfully employed. When my parents were growing up, if they didn’t have the best grades or couldn’t afford to go to college, they had free access to trade school. Multiple, affordable education opportunities with paid internships, would benefit our children greatly. When young people are unable to work and support themselves, they loose themselves to drugs, despair and lawlessness and are vulnerable to evil elements who take advantage of them.
Thanks to all of you who have such caring and loving thoughts. I know I unloaded a lot of information here that has nothing to do with our lovely Adam, but the sharing of my mind here is very therapeutic.
3ku1 » Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:45 pm wrote:Their should be no reason for Adam to cancel. These terrorist attacks generally dont attack famous ppl, as their is too much security. Its every day ppl they attack. Should be safe by the time Adams their.
Well said Carmi. I totally agree. Although I live in Canada, I am not that far away from New York, and like you this brought all the memories of 911 back with a force.Carmi » Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:54 pm wrote:3ku1 » Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:45 pm wrote:Their should be no reason for Adam to cancel. These terrorist attacks generally dont attack famous ppl, as their is too much security. Its every day ppl they attack. Should be safe by the time Adams their.
I disagree with you very strongly. As a native New Yorker, all shades of 911 are hitting me terribly this weekend. I am having a rough time of things as many others are too. A music festival on Thursday seems trite in light of what has happened in Paris imo.
As far as "famous" people not being attacked...I would say the French and German soccer teams are pretty famous. And there WAS security at the stadium. Probably more so that the President of France would be in attendance. We all know how well that worked.
Another reason why the festival "might" be cancelled imo, is that France will be shoulder deep in sad, sad funerals. Hardly anyone would be in a mood to go sing and rock out at a music festival I would imagine.
I will and do give Madonna major props for performing in Stockholm last night. Thanks Hriticka for posting it. The tears flowed for me as I watched it. She was right. We should not let the terrorists scare us from living. But, and this is a huge but, she was not performing in Paris. There is a difference for me. If she had a Paris show, I believe she would be forced to have had to cancel it. It is just too soon for Paris right now.
911 also caused NYC to halt all entertainment too. No one was in the mood for any of that. Eventually it all came back, but it was definitely not in a time frame of 6 days. Which is when this music festival is supposed to be.
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